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  1. #1 microsoft has crossed the line and then pissed on it 
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    So I can take the obvious parallels between tiger and vista with a grain of salt. We all know microsoft sees new technologies, and then steals them and markets them as their own.

    Tomorrow steve and bill will be speaking together at a convention to unveil new technologies their prospective companies have been working on.

    As you know Apple has developed the multi touch interface for the iphone, and they patented it. You may also know that Microsoft is currently filing complaints against novell and some other open source distributors for patent infringement.

    Well check this out, Microsoft surface.

    http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

    Looks like multi-touch to me. You even re-size pictures/windows with the same gesture that you use on the iphone. Now who infringes on patents again? I hope steve reaches over and slaps bill in his lying mouth tomorrow. Although that probably won't happen, I do expect low lows and bad mouthing across the board. Just like MS to market a new technology from Apple as their own, this is only like the 70th time they have used that same tactic.





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    watch a video of a MS rep using the surface to display the capabilities of surface. Surface in all actuality is a 1ghz vista box with digital cameras that recognize shapes in infared. Watch them use drag and drop like a mac, and scroll like an iphone.
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    im pretty sure that touch screen technology has been around way before the iphone.

    petty discussion. give the money to whoever was the first person to use the touch screen technology.



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    your missed the point. Touch screen has been around for a while, and you have always been able to press one finger at a time. Multi touch technology that recognizes specific gestures and associates them with functions, is new and was created and patented by Apple. Of course you know who sees that Apple has something promising and then they try and regurgitate the tech as their own. MS laughed at the ipod when it first launched, and it took them years to realize it was not a fad; then they made their zune which carried the same price tag as an ipod video. This time they are not waiting to see what the new tech does, they are trying to beat Apple to market with a blatant rip on their patented multi-touch technology.


    Bottom line:


    F*CK MICROSOFT



    Here's steve balmer being interviewed about the surface and completely sidestepping the point made that Apple invented multi-touch.


    I thought there was ANOTHER company that invented that? I was kidding, but Apple has shown this kind of stuff in the iPhone. HP has shown this kind of tech... does someone own the patents on this stuff? Everyone's doing this...

    We feel really good about our IP position. But multitouch in general has been in academia for decades, as a concept it's been around for a very long time. What's unique what we're doing is adding into the user experience.

    Just placed a camera on the surface, photo pulled down wirelessly instantly. That was pretty impressive! Showing scratch and win application for Harrah's, exploring Harrah's casino properties. The 30-inch formfactor was what tested best, but there aren't any constraints to the scale of the Surface display size. Showing the T-Mobile demo. "We want to improve the cellphone buying experience."
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    interesting....

    Apple patented their interface, and some other companies have patents on the version of MT. It will be interesting to see all this stuff come to market and watch the law suits pile in. I hope it is a fad, life without a mouse would suck. Plus think about the constant cleaning of your surface or screen or whatever.
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    only time will tell, do know what the patent covers EXACTLY? i dont think so, maybe there are other approaches to multi touch maybe there arnt.

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    Plus think about the constant cleaning of your surface or screen or whatever.
    doesnt that apply to teh iphone too?
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    Apple's patent is on their multi-touch technology, when MS surface is using the same gestures to perform the same functions, I think its infringing.


    Yes it applies to the iphone as well, I dont think I would pay $600 for a phone I am constantly wiping fingerprints off of.
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    wow obviously a mac lover would post this i mean i could go around saying how much i hate macs and how they copy pcs but i just have more dignity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOBOY
    wow obviously a mac lover would post this i mean i could go around saying how much i hate macs and how they copy pcs but i just have more dignity.
    Dude, I'm not a Mac lover, I'm a PC user. And I'll tell you that Mac has never copied anything from Windows, it's quite the opposite. Ever since computers were mainstream Microsoft has been copying various elements from other operating systems (namely Mac and Linux.) They didn't copy it code for code or whatever, they just took the idea.

    Why do you think we have Internet Explorer? Because back in 1993 the web browser for Mac at the time was making a big splash, so Microsoft found a company that was developing a web browser and bought it out, that browser became Internet Explorer. This is just one example - take a look through Microsoft's past and you'll see they've done this QUITE often. They've even been sued over it, countless times. Let's skip to now - Aero interface in Vista. It's a direct rip-off of Compiz, you have the cube and advanced alpha blending, lighting effects, everything. The only thing missing is wobbly windows (and thank god for that.) Compiz is a Linux project. Aero has been around for... a year and six months? Vista RC1? Yeah, well Compiz has been around since 2003.
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    I'm just gonna add my two cents.

    I went to Redmond last summer (MS HQ), and toured their Visitor Center. They had a multi touch interface much like the one on the Microsoft "Surface" as it's being called now. I'm pretty sure that was before anyone had ever heard of an iPhone. It seems to me to be very much like the computer interface in the movie Minority Report. Oh yeah...and I wouldn't really compare a full sized table to a phone.
    .....that's all

    EDIT:If you would look @ the specs for the Surface....it doesn't use a touchpad/ touch screen...it uses cameras I don't think Apple patented that...
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    this is not a duplicate of the piece of junk iphone though this is a multitouch computer in a table,but not a portable device.plus the iphone is only under Cingular and wont be in contract with AT&T till 2012 so whats the point if you have to use certain networks.
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    You know what, I for one honestly dont give a crap. The companies can copy eachother all they want. To me it only matters which one is better.
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    u can buy the phone and then have it set up with another company
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    Quote Originally Posted by auburntigersfan4life
    u can buy the phone and then have it set up with another company
    not at&t though G4 siad they were not in contract till 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by HALOBOY
    not at&t though G4 siad they were not in contract till 2012
    Contract doesn't matter. You buy the phone from Cingular, get it deactivated, then take it to Sprint/AT&T/Verizon and activate it through them. It's called an ESN change, it's a simple 10-minute deal, and it works on all phones that don't use SIMM cards.
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