[miamiheat4life]

lol this 12345 points are getting annoying lol but here i go

1.actually pat was not looking to find a true pg with dwade handling the ball most of the time, he was looking for some one young and athletic to play next to him like smush parker

2.yeah the older you get the more injury prone you are but shaqs injury was his dumb ass fault for not wearing his knee brace at the begging of the year. and jwill is conditioning like crazy so i doubt he will miss to many games

3.i all ready talked about shaq

4.detriot i dont know but i have a feeling that there ecf streak is coming to an end there finally competion in the east

5.the heat are young not only with dwade, theres dorrell wright getting more minutes, smush parker, and udonis haslem at pf and daquan cook were not that old of a team. And the offseason is not even close to being over james posey most likely being delt in a s&t and jwill still not in the clear he might be traded, pat likes to take his time so who knows how are roster will look like next year

[adam]

One more time

1. A team needs a true point guard...Wade takes the ball up when he wants to take over a game with his scoring

2. THe injuries would have come one way or another and i dont see shaq playing more than 60 games

3. you did

4. A feeling isnt an answer lol

5. The hawks are young...are they good? these are not established young guys

[baseball_dude]

i don't care..

[miamiheat4life]

lol
A. no he doesnt, he usually does all the ball handling most of the game and in crunch time how do i know this maybe because ive seen almost every game hes been in

B. of course hes gonna get injured but nothing to serious

C.alright

D. ok i know there not going to the ecf because stone cold said so

E.??? are you saying the miami young guys are not established

[heatzone07]

Originally Posted by auburntigersfan4life

1. YOu dont understand the fact of a true PG...which means you dont look to score and are more of a passer. Smush is more of a scorer than anything else and with the likes of shaq and wade...the oppurtunities wont come for atleast one of them, meaning trouble in miami

2. With age comes injuries...i know D wade is young so hes an exception, but thats a one man show right there. J will will get older as he has many years in the league already. Age is not the main point, its how much you have played in the league, and if Dwade has to carry the team, he wont be able to do it withh another man ie healthy larry hughes. Unless a miracle happens, Shaq will most definatley miss some games like has done the past 2 years. Hes a big man...and big men dont stay in the league as long as your point guard. Face it, the diesel is running out of fuel.

3. I mis typed what i mean...shaq is not as big a threat anymore. Yes he will be drawing double teams but with a zone you can draw over that second man without reallly leaving someone wide open. Hes missed a total of 63 gmaes the past 2 years....and you expect him to get magically better? The diesel can get you 12-15 points 7 boards....but is that really enough to call him a big threat?


4. What is your basis on the pistons not going anywhere? Same team...more youth and development...same chemistry? How will they be worse other than injuries hitting them even though they have had next to no injuries over the last five years. That made you look like a total dumbass as you counted emotional distress as the reason they wont get far

5. YOu mean if the heat were younger. Gilbert arenas is not a one man show...Caron butler, Antwon Jamison, hayes, thomas, and daniels are true legitamate players. I mean caron was an ALL Star and JAmison stil is an all star calibar player. I see them as a bigger threat to the pistons than the aging heat. Do you realize how young the bulls are. They will just keep getting better and better and even a healthy wade would have put a fight but wouldnt have won that series alone.


YEa the pistons lost in the east finals to the cavs...but they just had a bad series and chancey wasnt himself. With a mix of that and bad calls and a no name guy named boobie....i dont see that as a concern....i see it as just bad luck

#1 I know what a PGs role is in the game but Smush can still play the 2 when D-Wade is gone and play the 1 when Wade's back in the game. All he needs is practice and with Pat Rilley, J-Will and D-Wade there to mentor him he should be fine. His best years have probably yet to come, just watch him in the future.

#2 So your saying Detroit or any other team isn't prone to injury. What about if the the Spurs lose Tim Duncan, what would happen to them? Or if your Pistons lost Chauncy? Did you ever think of that?

#3 Ok how does Shaq missing supposedly 63 games affect his performance in a new NBA season. All I've got to say is your a moron.

#4 Listen retard, you can win as many games as you want during the regular season but that doesn't mean shit unless you can produce better results in the postseason where the level of intensity and emotion is much higher. If you read any of the newspapers and/or watched any tiny morsel of Sports News during the Heat's championship year the many say the Pistons lost to the Heat because they fell apart due to the Ben Wallace feud with Flip Saunders coupled with the fact they were emotionally and physically drained from the previous 7 game series where they beat the Cavaliers. It was either that or the Pistons just plain sucked!

#5 Obviously you can't read, so let me re-emphasize IF THEY WERE EVER HEALTHY LAST YEAR THE HEAT WOULD CREAM ANY OF THOSE TEAMS. The Wizards without Arenas are nothing. To be a legitimate player you have to be consistent and Caron Butler as well as Antawn Jamison do not fit that bill, so the Hibachi is a one man team Deshawn Stevenson doesn't do shit either. The Bulls I have to give them credit because they are a legitimate contender with their uptempo style of play, but they just don't have enough playoff experience. And all I've got to say about the Pistons is, they were beaten by the Cavs...Wow!

[adam]

Uno. SMUSH WILL NEVER BE A DECENT POINT GUARD! J will is a good point guard but yuo cant just bring any loser in (which smush is) and make him a decent guard through mentoring

DOs. When was detroit really injured...and if they lose chauncey they have a decent bench in hunter (if he returns), Flip murray was a starter in seattle, and afflalo is a very good rookie. San Antonio would still be domiant w.o duncan. Are you retarded? The spurs are so deep, its crazy

Tres. Its called a patter dumbass. Hes getting older, hence more injury and its been a trend the past two years

Cuatro. I call getting to the conference finals. I dont call getting to the conference finals 5 straight years a failure, 2 times in the finals, and one win in the span of five seasons.

Cinco: calling butler inconsistent makes you sound like a dipshit. He was an allstar and was top 20 before he got injured. Jamison is a little streaky but proved last year he is a good fit for the team. If you say stevenson sucks so does parker, payton. The pistons lost to the cavs...yea but they beat the bulls who swept the heat...biggger WOW!

[heatzone07]

I didn't know morons like you could predict the future and can tell Smush will never make a decent guard, considering he started in almost every game for the Lakers the past two years, your just blurting nonsense.

First of all I was suggesting the possiblilty of other players getting injured in other teams other than Miami, sense you think every team in the NBA is superior to Miami for some odd reason and impervious from all things natural. If Chauncy is gone its over for the Pistons you dumbshit hes there leader! It seems you don't remember when Billiups was injured last season and the Pistons had that losing drought. Same goes for Tim Duncan if hes gone who the hell would compensate for what he brings to the table Bruce Bowen? Ginobli? Parker? Finley? Are you fricking kidding me. Kid you do not know basketball so quit talking.

A patter? What a dumbass...how the fuck does a pattern correlate to whats going to happen in the future, it may work in science but not in sports moron, one of the most independent forefronts in human life. Think about what you just said.

Anything less then a championship is a failure. You don't get second place for losing in the Finals.

I've seen Butler when he was with the Heat and for the most part he played inconsistently but that could have been due to him being a rookie, I've also seen him play inconsistently in several Wizards games as well. Going for as few as 5 points and 2 assists. Has Stevenson won a championship...No. Has GP...Yes. Not only that who gives a shit about Payton hes not even playing anymore dummy. Yea the Bulls beat an injured Heat team....Hurrah, Hurrah. Whereas Lebron shitted on the Pistons by himself.

[adam]

How old are you? You are a heat fanboy...so your arguement is one sided.Look @ how smush played the last two years with the best coach of all time? Still pretty shitty. You need to get your facts straight.

Without Duncan, the spurs would still be playoff bound and still make noise, oberto is not a terrrible big and can compensate for the loss of duncan. Without Billups, the pistons would still be a PLAYOFF TEAM, but not as dominant. YOu can just talk shit out of your ass when you dont even watch the pistons play.

Patterns have everthing to do with basketball. As you get older you are more injury prone. If you have had a past of injuries you are more likely to get an injury in the future. You are fuckin retarted if you dont believe that.

But you still are a legitamate team if you can win games in the playoffs and get to the eastern conference finals? am i right


Who doesnt have inconsistent games. Ive seen wade score 10 points on 2-16 shooting with 10 turnovers. Does that make him inconistent?

Lebron had one amazing game aagaisnt detroit. Mcdeyess was thrwon out of that game. Who was picking lebron up when he drove? Jason Maxiell, a young guy who isnt in the best of shape. Mcdeyess shouldnt have been ejected and you know it, if you actually had watched the game.

Just for a second, stand up, and stop sucking wades dick and look around and see what really is going on in the rest of the league. Yea, i admit, spurs and suns are better than the pistons. But after lookin everywhere i havent found a reason why the pistons are worse than any teams in the east. The bottom line is, the pistons can play with anyone in the league, which is something the today heat cannot.

[heatzone07]

As if my name or avatar didn't give you the slightest hint yes I am a "Heat fanboy" and I'll point that out immediately since your idiotic ass can't tell, and have to question me. The only reason why my responses may sound biased is because you keep attacking the Heat or anything I say for that matter.

Oberto sucks he can never replace what Duncan offers...period. They won't be dominate without Duncan. Same with Chauncy. And if any one talks shit its you (PS3 price drop anbody).

God I think I'm dealing with a true delinquent ass here... since when do you call injuries a pattern. If your ankle gets injured one year. It doesn't mean you'll get it the next year. It just means you are more suspectible to a similar injury if your ankles were not properly treated and rehabilated. By no means is that pattern you ass.

Like I said before you don't get second place for losing in the Finals. Every year teams try take a shot at the title. If they don't win, they lost that particular year and try to rebuild and restructure for a chance to win the following year.

Yea D-Wade has nights like that in 2 out 82 games...figure it out for yourself.

You really need to mature kid instead of attacking everything your afraid off. Because your the one who starts fights and problems in the forums first it came with the PS3 price drop, then the refferals (which I remember you pming me for one, when I never asked) and now this. My first post in this thread was about KG going to Boston and you think all I care about is the Heat...please. Are you going to cry if I say the Pistons can't compete with anyone in this league? Your just annoying the hell out of me kid, with that said I'm done with you.

[adam]

YOu are so fukcing bias...what you stated was a pattern


and i nevre said oberto is as good as duncan...i said they would still be a good team without duncan...YOu need to read before you type! YOu are blind to what i said. Read my post again and then post instead of being such a vagina about everything.

MIami was talking about smush so i told him what i though bout smush. YOu jumped in and started going crazy...and you keep calling me kid? How old are you 17?

[heatzone07]

^^^^ Mods you got my vote if you ever want to ban this loser ^^^^

PS. I think you need to go back to school and learn some grammar, and improve your vocabulary specifically look up what you said and the word compensate, replaced is essentially the same thing...mooooooorrrrroooooonnnnn!!!!

And now I am done with you.

[adam]

^^^^ Mods you got my vote if you ever want to ban this loser ^^^^

A. hes bias
B. Blind
C.Starts a fight and says he didnt
D. immature

[miamiheat4life]

Originally Posted by auburntigersfan4life

Look @ how smush played the last two years with the best coach of all time?

yeah he must of played like shit to have 110 threes and 110 steals in those two years, only a few players had those stats. Also i expect those threes to go way up like every one else who played with shaq like damon jones and jason kahomo another way he is useful.

and im not trying to get into your guys beef but chill out with the heat hate because this will never end

[adam]

I never said the heat were bad...thye just arent as good as

1. pistons
2. wizards
3. bulls
4.maybe cavs/nets

[miamiheat4life]

the offseason is far from over, are team might not even look like this at the begging of the season so we will see
and were better than all those teams