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  1. #1 Is PS Vita Discouraging Downloadable Games? 
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    It has been a week since the PlayStation Vita officially launched, and I'm pretty smitten with the system.Hot Shots Golf is as pleasingly approachable and addictive as ever, Touch My Katamari breathes new life into a series that has been stale ever since its second installment, and Rayman Origins andUltimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 offer tantalizing reproductions of console titles I never really devoted sufficient time to the first time around. Also, twin analog sticks! Finally!
    Touch My Katamari's King of All Cosmos reacts to Sony's PS Vita memory card pricing.

    Despite that, there's one aspect of the system that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and that's the proprietary memory cards. Rather than rely on inexpensive industry standard SD cards for data storage, Sony saddled the Vita with its very own memory cards that don't work with anything else and aren't made by anyone else. Sony told Joystiq the reason for the proprietary format was to fight piracy. Sony told GameSpot that the proprietary format lets it better control performance and quality to "make sure that the gamer has the best possible experience." What Sony isn't telling anyone, but what should be readily apparent to everyone, is that the proprietary format cuts out competition and lets Sony charge grossly inflated prices for PS Vita memory cards.
    What Sony isn't telling anyone, but what should be readily apparent to everyone, is that the proprietary format cuts out competition and lets Sony charge grossly inflated prices for PS Vita memory cards.
    What bothers me most about this isn't that Sony's proprietary pricing is essentially anti-consumer; it's that Sony is hurting its customers for little gain to its bottom line (possibly none at all). The memory card pricing may bolster Vita peripheral sales in the short term, but it will stifle software sales in the long run. By putting a premium on memory cards, Sony is forcing customers to overcome multiple intent-to-purchase hurdles every time they buy something. They have to consider whether or not the actual asking price of the content they want is worth it, and then they have to ask whether the amount of space it takes up is worth it. It's hard enough convincing someone to downloadUncharted: Golden Abyss for $50, but when they realize that game will take up 3.2GB of a $20 4GB memory stick, that's bound to give a person pause. Maybe not a long enough pause to actually download a 3.2GB game, but long enough to reconsider making a purchase.
    If Sony is lucky, those who think twice about downloading the game will still buy the retail version. That puts $50 in Sony's pocket, but with a slimmer margin than a download due to the cost of the physical goods, distribution, and the retailer's cut. And that's Sony's best-case situation for Uncharted, a system-selling game that people will jump through a few hoops to seek out. Consider what happens to sales of all the other games, music, and movies that Sony offers only through the PlayStation Network, when players are forced to consider their available memory card space as a resource just as finite as their money. Those transactions, all of which put money in Sony's pocket, might never happen at all.
    Sony's proprietary memory card pricing discourages digital sales, which means gamers are more likely to buy retail versions, which means there will be more copies of the game that could show up used in GameStop, undermining new sales and driving prices down prematurely. Considering the lengths to which Sony has gone to try to undermine the used game market (an online pass for Patapon?!), this points to an embarrassingly muddled corporate strategy.
    I suspect the real conflict here isn't between Sony and gamers; it's between Sony and its retail partners. The PS Vita is the biggest threat to the brick-and-mortar distribution system to date. Every single game released on the system will be available digitally on the same day as it appears in stores. In many cases, the digital version will sell at a discount (slight though it may be) from a physical copy. And this isn't a fire-and-forget experiment like the PSP Go. This is Sony's flagship portable for the next seven years or so, the bigger and better follow-up to the 75-million-selling PSP. No system before this enabled players to cut the retail tether so easily.
    That said, Sony still needs the GameStops, Best Buys, and Wal-Marts of the world to carry its games, systems, and accessories, because digital distribution of games isn't accepted or easy enough just yet for the company to justify a complete switch-over. So how does Sony release a system designed to make its retail partners obsolete without alienating them while they're still useful? Pushing gamers to brick-and-mortar stores for expensive high-margin accessory sales is one way to do it, and there are no more expensive Vita accessories than the system's memory cards. It also helps that memory cards are mysteriously mandatory for a number of titles, that save data can't be stored on the retail games themselves like they can with 3DS games, and that even devoutly digital gamers who want nothing more than to avoid retailers will need to drop considerable money at those same stores for memory cards.
    An 8GB memory card was fine for the PSP, but PS Vita games and media will eat that space up awfully quick.

    The somewhat counterintuitive strategy seems to be working immediately out of the gate, Electronic ​Entertainment Design and Research analyst Jesse Divnich told GameSpot.
    "Certainly the reliance on memory cards is an olive branch to retailers, which receives more profit on accessory sales than any other category," Divnich said. "For a $100 memory card, Sony only receives $40 to $50, the rest is all retail margins…Fortunately for Sony, we are seeing memory card attach rates above 85 percent, so this shouldn't hinder digital sales for those that bought a Vita; however, it could hinder sales from consumers who have decided not to purchase a Vita due to the total cost of purchase."
    Divnich speculated that Sony could get around the memory card issue by either including internal memory in a future configuration of the system, or tossing memory sticks into the hardware packages in lieu of a price cut. The current $250 version of the PS Vita doesn't come with a memory card, although for a limited time, the $300 3G-enabled version of the hardware will pack in an 8GB card.
    The most frustrating thing about Sony's proprietary PS Vita memory cards is that they are more an intentional flaw than a simple oversight. Paying $100 for a memory card instead of a handful of games is bad enough, but Sony is sticking it to consumers to stay in good graces with retailers. And it's downright infuriating to see two places we players support with our money show their gratitude by joining forces to bend us over a barrel.
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    The memory card purchase isnt that bad.

    I look at it the same way as a new technology.

    What is realy, realy, REALY annoying, is beign forced to use that piece of poop content manager system to access the memory card.

    Having to stand on your head, rub your belly and quack like a duck at the same time just to copy music or video's to your PSV is a pain in the arse when compared to the traditional open file browser, move to selected folder, copy+paste/drag+drop.

    one other thing about the custom cards is - they look EXTREAMLY fragile. On the backside of the card you can see all the circut tracks. They've coated over it with a layer of paint. Still, one scratch on those tracks... bye bye very expensive memory card.

    Only other downside i can see about these custom memory cards - is stock levels. Because they're "speshul" and i honestly cant see them as being a top seller - stores will allow stocks to dwindle/sit on empty untill requested. Which is a pain in the arse for you should you want one later down the track.
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    What they should have done is skip the 3G (AT&T 3G is a total joke IMO, and not a very funny one) and instead put the money and resources into onboard flash memory. 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB Vitas all with WiFi and none with 3G. Then I might have bought one.
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    It seems to me that the fact it is a memory card (unlike say 3DS games) and this high cost , gives what shouldn't be much of a problem a bitter sting .
    In reality, Piracy is a big problem for these companies and unique hardware is an easy way to styfle attempts of piracy but as we are all aware there is little that can be done to ever fully prevent.

    It could be argued that Sony could be limiting there losses looking for piracy to require their memory cards, screwing developers in the process. What we can be sure off is that some of there choices are limiting the experience for loyal customers.

    Nice post , interesting points, will say a bit word heave and adding lines between paragraphs may make it more accessible.
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    Sony's attempts at countering piracy are as good as raising the blood alcohol limit for people driving so they statisticly dont get as many drunk drivers. Pointlessly stupid.

    Piracy used to be the poor mans way of being able to play things they couldent afford.

    In this day and age its moreso to give the publisher "the finger".

    Us consumers are not stupid. When we're shown a product (say the Vita and PS3) and we see video's of it can do this and it can do that. Then we get the product:

    We find that due to a software limitation (Ie a line of code that dissalows the product from doing something, when its perfectly capable of/designed to do it...) prevents the remote play feature on every single PS3 game bar "Singstar".

    We find that the store is segmented into regions. The Japan/US region we can understand, Sony is in Japan, all the latest games come out there with the only language as Japanese. They then get ported to the US Store. They dont appear on the AU store for months after the US has got it. And they all appear between $30 and $50 more expensive. (Years ago they interviewd the big comptuer games suppliers - asking them why they charge so much in comparison to the US, the worked out how much shipping and retailing costs should make the product cost ($10 more than the US counterpart...) and the suppliers answer was "Australians are willing to pay more!")


    We then see advertisments that show God of War being played on the PSV/PSV, and being played on the PS3 with updated graphics. You allready own the same god of war game on your PSP. You go to try it out how its advertised - only to find out that you have to buy the PS1 version of the same game, before you can do whats advertised.


    You have a PS3. You happily had Linux on it. Untill Sony decided they diddnt like it.


    All of the above issues fall down to two main things:

    Sony considers all its consumers as airheadded dipshits (Or dollar bills with arms/legs that need "liberating")
    Sony is content to disadvantage/blatantly screw over its paying customers in favor of "anti piracy" measures.
    Sony gives its disgrunted paying customers EVERY REASON to seek alternate means of acquiring software and unlocking features on its products.


    TLDR: If sony actualy gave a toss about making money, it would stop treating its customers like illiterate apes. The more restrictions and preventative measures that interupt, disrupt or just make something as simple as opening a door, require 20x the time and resources to do, the more reason paying customers seek alternate means to achieve their goals.



    Another example of this stupid system is when you buy a DVD/Bluray. You take it home, pop it in the player (i dont know if its the same for you US people...) but in Aus for 80% of the dvd's on teh market, you are FORCED to sit thru 10minutes of crap. As in the "You wouldent steal a car!" piracy movie. Then 3-4 other movie trailers. you CANNOT skip this. Nomatter how they try to justify it, The paying customer is being PUNISHED for his decision to do right by the company and buy it, by being forced to watch crap.


    In all cases of DRM and other anti-piracy measures, its allways the legit, paying customer that gets a punch in the stomoch as a thanks for their troubles.


    Again, the current setup for anti piracy only encourages piracy.
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