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  1. #1 Will your PC keep pace with Vista? 
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    <div class='quotetop'></div><div class='quotemain'>How does Windows Vista love thy computer? Let it count the ways.

    Microsoft is building into the new operating system a tool that will rate a PC based on how well it is running and on how much it can take advantage of Vista's capabilities.

    The "Windows Performance Rating," which can be seen in the latest test version of the operating system, evaluates components such as the processor, the memory, the hard drive and graphics cards to come up with an overall score.

    The rating appears in a large blue circle and can be seen in multiple places in the operating system, though Microsoft has said little about what exactly the rating signifies. The main rating is on a scale of 1 to 5, but individual components are also given a "sub rating" on some other, unspecified range.

    "The idea behind the Windows Performance Rating is to help average consumers easily understand their Windows Vista PC's overall performance, and to simplify the process of determining whether certain software applications will run smoothly based on their system components," Microsoft said in a statement provided to CNET News.com.

    Computer makers and retailers would then be able to use that as a tool to help explain, in general terms, the capabilities of a particular machine. Software makers would also be able to specify the type of PC needed to run their software.


    A Sony Vaio laptop on display at last week's Intel Developer Forum, for example, scored an overall rating of 3. The PC had an Intel processor and 1GB of memory, which earned sub-ratings of 5.6 and 5.5 respectively. A desktop on the IDF show floor with Intel's Pentium D 940 processor and 2GB of unspecified memory also received a 3, with the processor rated at 5.6 and the memory at 5.5.

    Microsoft declined to provide details of its rating methodology, noting that it is still working on the grading system.

    "This capability is still under development, so the current experience with the Windows Performance Rating may not be indicative of the final experience," Microsoft said. The company promised that the feature would continue to be enhanced in future test versions.

    Vista's performance ratings will be primarily useful to customers before they make a purchase, said Roger Kay, the president of market analysis firm Endpoint Technologies Associates.

    The ratings could be a tool for salespeople in retail outlets, for example, to demonstrate how well systems would run Vista and related applications, Kay said. But if the buyer doesn't find out about the rating until they get their PC home and start playing around with it, it's harder to understand the benefits, he said.

    Set scale?
    An open question is whether the system rating is a fixed score or whether it might change over time, as hardware advances. There are challenges whichever route Microsoft takes. If adjustments are made, then the rating for a particular setup will decline, and consumers may feel their PC is losing steam. On the other hand, if the ratings don't evolve, improving technology could eventually lead all machines to score a 5.

    As for systems slowing down, that's an issue that Microsoft is already trying to tackle. In the past, machines actually have lost significant performance as more software loads at startup, hard disks become fragmented and other features "gunk" up the works. With Vista, though, Microsoft has added several features that aim to keep the PC from bogging down over time.

    It is unclear how large a factor these ratings will be for PC makers as they plan their Vista lineup.

    Sam Bhavnani, an analyst at Current Analysis, said that, provided the rating system can be easily understood, it could give computer makers a new way to tout the performance of machines.

    "It would make it easier for them to advertise their systems as 'good,' 'better,' 'best,'" Bhavnani said. It would mean the prospective buyer wouldn't have to compare the memory, hard drive and other components on their own.

    A Hewlett-Packard representative praised the idea behind the system, saying, "Anything that simplifies the technology for the consumer is a positive thing, and that's obviously the goal."

    However, HP said it was too soon to say just how the ratings will factor into how it markets and sells its PCs.

    Microsoft is readying a second tool, currently called the Windows Upgrade Advisor, that will take a look at a PC and make recommendations on how its performance can be enhanced to run Vista better. The tool is most likely to recommend more memory or an improved graphics card, said Dave Block, a senior product manager in Microsoft's Windows Vista unit.


    "Those are the ones that are most important and the easiest to solve," Block said in a brief interview after a presentation at the Intel Developer Forum.

    Although Vista is months away from launch, Microsoft has yet to give much in the way of specifics on what hardware will be needed. Thus far, the company has suggested 512MB of memory, a graphics card with a Vista-specific driver and a modern processor.

    Microsoft has given hardware makers a bit more to work with in the form of the Vista logo program. This lays down guidelines for what capabilities are required for a new PC to display a "basic" logo (the machine is equipped for Vista) or a "premium" logo (the computer is designed to take advantage of Vista's new features). However, Microsoft has stressed that standards for the program are not necessarily indicative of the final hardware requirements for the OS.

    Analysts have said that, for all but a basic Vista system, at least 1GB of memory is probably a necessity. That means consumers who have purchased a PC in the last couple of months might need an upgrade.

    During February, about a quarter of notebook PCs sold at U.S. retail stores shipped with 1GB of memory, while nearly 57 percent came with 512MB, according to Stephen Baker, director of industry analysis at NPD Techworld. On the desktop side, about half of all desktops came with 1GB of memory, while 35 percent came with 512MB.

    However, Vista also puts a premium on memory throughput. That capability hinges on the speed of the memory chip used in a system, as well as whether it offers "dual channels" for data or only a single memory channel.

    Bhavnani said that the ratings are a good idea overall, but may create some challenges in the short term, especially when it comes to people upgrading the operating system on a computer, as opposed to buying a new PC with Vista loaded.

    "You might buy a (Windows XP) system today and go buy a boxed version of Vista in November and get a (rating) number of 1," Bhavnani said. "Even though you just spent a grand on your notebook, you need to go spend $200 on your graphics card."

    While it is important for PC owners to know whether their system can handle Vista, most people running the OS will be doing so on new machines, NPD's Baker noted.

    "Even if they sell 5 million (upgrade) copies, that's still only 5 percent" of consumers with PCs, he said.</div>

    Wow!

    This is pretty cool..but if you need to shell out a graphics card every month then casual PC users will need to lose a lot of money...:eyepop:
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  2. #2 Will your PC keep pace with Vista? 
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    If they need to spend so much money just to upgrade to Vista, then a lot of people will probably just stick with what they have. If you need some ultra, amazing graphics card to use Vista, then I know for sure that I won't be using it anytime soon. I have a laptop with integrated graphics, so upgrading the graphics card is just not an option for me. And I can't be the only one.

    Anyway, I wonder if there will be viruses/malware that will affect the Windows Performance Rating, making you think your computer should run Vista just fine when it doesn't, or the opposite. Won't that be great? :eek:
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    Oh yea..but Microsoft will make better protection.....

    YEA RIGHT!
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    But if they did, then the virus and spyware makers would make better malware. :eek:
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  5. #5 Will your PC keep pace with Vista? 
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    As I HAVE SAID BE FORE, EVERY YEAR SECRUITY GETS WORSE AND WORSE BECAUSE THEY USE THE SAME KIND OF SOFTWARE!
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  6. #6 Will your PC keep pace with Vista? 
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    Yeah, it kinda gets worse. What could they do about it though? I can think of two things.
    1. They could completely code a new operating system from scratch. I'm not sure even Vista is completely new... isn't it going to be NT based? Is this what you mean by same kind of software?
    2. Hardware malware protection would be good. I think you mentioned that somewhere in another topic. And if they can make these stupid DRM chips they're planning, then they can make something similar to protect our computers from viruses and adware.
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